{"id":8969,"date":"2015-11-25T16:02:35","date_gmt":"2015-11-25T15:02:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/?p=8969"},"modified":"2020-04-15T11:49:20","modified_gmt":"2020-04-15T09:49:20","slug":"le-collectif-stop-le-controle-au-facies-inquiet-mais-plus-determine-que-jamais","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/le-collectif-stop-le-controle-au-facies-inquiet-mais-plus-determine-que-jamais\/","title":{"rendered":"Le Collectif \u00ab\u00a0Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb inquiet mais d\u00e9termin\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><b>[Dossier contr\u00f4les d\u2019identit\u00e9] Le Collectif Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s cr\u00e9\u00e9 en 2011, se bat pour la mise en place du r\u00e9c\u00e9piss\u00e9 \u00e0 travers de nombreuses actions et initiatives. Le LBB s\u2019est entretenu avec le Collectif dont l\u2019action sur le terrain et dans la sph\u00e8re politique est d\u2019autant plus n\u00e9cessaire dans la p\u00e9riode actuelle.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-8973 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/6f12b3c9f02af052e331aec21d053ae478713093.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/6f12b3c9f02af052e331aec21d053ae478713093.png 720w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/6f12b3c9f02af052e331aec21d053ae478713093-300x176.png 300w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/6f12b3c9f02af052e331aec21d053ae478713093-600x352.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a name=\"_GoBack\"><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">L\u2019adoption du <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/attaques-a-paris\/article\/2015\/11\/20\/apres-les-attentats-la-semaine-tres-securitaire-de-francois-hollande_4814574_4809495.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">projet de loi prolongeant l\u2019\u00e9tat d\u2019urgence <\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">pour une dur\u00e9e de trois mois est \u00ab\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>vraiment une nouvelle horrible\u00a0\u00bb <\/i><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">aux yeux du Collectif qui consid\u00e8re que <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>\u00ab\u00a0\u00e7a va \u00eatre pire. Maintenant ce n\u2019est plus le Minist\u00e8re de l\u2019Int\u00e9rieur qui prot\u00e8ge la police, c\u2019est l\u2019\u00c9tat\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">. Pour les associations composant le Collectif contre le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s, \u00ab\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>ce qui est grave et ce qui est triste, c\u2019est que c\u2019est inefficace. Ce n\u2019est pas du tout comme \u00e7a qu\u2019on va trouver des terroristes\u00a0! Mais en plus, c\u2019est contre-productif. Parce que justement \u00e7a va empirer la situation et donner raison aux contr\u00f4les discriminatoires et cette esp\u00e8ce d\u2019impunit\u00e9 des contr\u00f4les au faci\u00e8s. C\u2019est hyper dangereux. C\u2019est au-del\u00e0 de la politique&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Depuis la semaine derni\u00e8re, le Collectif s\u2019inqui\u00e8te \u00e9norm\u00e9ment des mesures mises en \u0153uvre \u00e0 la suite des attentats\u00a0du 13 novembre\u00a0: <i>\u00ab\u00a0Il y a un truc tr\u00e8s grave l\u00e0, les familles de victimes de violences polici\u00e8res viennent d\u2019apprendre que les policiers pourront \u00eatre arm\u00e9s m\u00eame hors service. Les gens sont d\u00e9sempar\u00e9s\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Le port d\u2019armes \u00e9tendu pour les policiers et les <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/danger-sur-la-democratie-peut-on-resumer-nos-vies-a-la-securite\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">diverses mesures prises\u00a0au nom de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des citoyens <\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">semblent dangereuses pour le Collectif\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>On va faire plus de contr\u00f4les et les flics pourront sortir une arme quand bon leur semble, c\u2019est compl\u00e8tement inconscient\u00a0! C\u2019est une mise en danger de tout le monde.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i><b>\u00ab\u00a0Maintenant, c\u2019est une question de vie ou de mort\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8974\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8974\" style=\"width: 484px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8974 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/4dbf48e1a82ee5214dc9e91f921fd499ceabe6b1.png\" alt=\"\u00a9 Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s\" width=\"484\" height=\"226\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/4dbf48e1a82ee5214dc9e91f921fd499ceabe6b1.png 484w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/4dbf48e1a82ee5214dc9e91f921fd499ceabe6b1-300x140.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 484px) 100vw, 484px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8974\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u00a9 Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Le Collectif s\u2019alarme \u00e9galement <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/les-decodeurs\/article\/2015\/11\/23\/les-petites-bavures-de-l-etat-d-urgence_4815803_4355770.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">des r\u00e9percussions que l\u2019\u00e9tat d\u2019urgence aura sur le d\u00e9roulement des contr\u00f4les d\u2019identit\u00e9\u00a0<span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">: <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>\u00ab\u00a0Les contr\u00f4les seront beaucoup plus discriminatoires, et beaucoup plus violents. Les gens les rapporteront beaucoup moins, ils vont se r\u00e9signer. On a beaucoup moins de plaintes dans les moments o\u00f9 c\u2019est le pire.\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">M\u00eame si <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/les-decodeurs\/article\/2014\/11\/26\/en-france-le-grand-flou-des-violences-policieres_4529111_4355770.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">aucune donn\u00e9e officielle n&rsquo;est\u00a0disponible,<\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"> on comptabilise 10 \u00e0 15 morts par an en moyenne li\u00e9s \u00e0 la police et le Collectif craint fortement \u00ab\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>que 2016 soit beaucoup plus meurtrier, \u00e7a risque de doubler. C\u2019est un grave probl\u00e8me.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Finalement, les membres du Collectif Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s sont <i>\u00ab\u00a0tous inquiets, mais d\u2019autant plus d\u00e9termin\u00e9s que les gens connaissent leurs droits.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i> Les mesures s\u00e9curitaires renforc\u00e9es par l\u2019\u00e9tat d\u2019urgence confortent le Collectif dans l\u2019utilit\u00e9 de ses actions d\u2019information et de lobbying ainsi que la d\u00e9termination \u00e0 continuer \u00e0 sensibiliser les publics\u00a0: <i>\u00ab\u00a0Maintenant, c\u2019est une question de vie ou de mort\u00a0! \u00c7a va \u00eatre dur de motiver les gens \u00e0 ne pas laisser passer.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i><b>\u00ab\u00a0On continue de promouvoir le r\u00e9c\u00e9piss\u00e9 parce que c\u2019est in\u00e9vitable\u00a0\u00bb<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019actualit\u00e9, la lutte contre le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s continue pour les membres du Collectif. Si la probl\u00e9matique principale est de ne pouvoir ni tracer ni comptabiliser les contr\u00f4les\u00a0; la <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/focus-sur-une-proposition-le-recepisse-solution-ou-gadget\/\">mise en place du r\u00e9c\u00e9piss\u00e9<\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"> pourrait permettre d\u2019\u00e9valuer ces contr\u00f4les et d\u2019en changer les pratiques et les modalit\u00e9s\u00a0: <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>\u00ab\u00a0C\u2019est terrible parce des policiers font l\u2019apologie de cette mesure du r\u00e9c\u00e9piss\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tranger, et ici le seul qui a bloqu\u00e9 c\u2019est Manuel Valls. C\u2019est un peu comme si c\u2019\u00e9tait le sujet sur lequel il ne voulait pas plier.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Le Collectif rejette vigoureusement l\u2019argument des r\u00e9fractaires qui en parlent comme d\u2019une <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/on-enleve-controle-didentite-on-enleve-pouvoir-dagir-a-police\/\">mesure\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0gadget\u00a0\u00bb<\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">. Le r\u00e9c\u00e9piss\u00e9 permettrait, au contraire, de r\u00e9duire les discriminations tout en am\u00e9liorant l\u2019efficacit\u00e9 polici\u00e8re. Ce que ne permet pas la r\u00e9forme mise en place d\u00e9but\u00a02014\u00a0: <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>\u00ab\u00a0Le matricule, c\u2019est juste l\u2019application du Droit europ\u00e9en et en plus de \u00e7a c\u2019est un scratch tout petit qui a tendance \u00e0 disparaitre quand il est malvenu.\u00a0\u00bb <\/i><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Selon eux, les mesures qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 prises visent essentiellement \u00e0 prot\u00e9ger les fonctionnaires de police\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>Les <\/i><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/controles-jacques-toubon-je-suis-tres-favorable-aux-enregistrements-video\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>cam\u00e9ras-pi\u00e9tons,<\/em><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i> c\u2019est vraiment une insulte \u00e0 l\u2019intelligence du public. C\u2019est surtout pour prot\u00e9ger les policiers en cas d\u2019usage de la force. Si ces mesures avaient \u00e9t\u00e9 ax\u00e9es pour arr\u00eater le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s, les cam\u00e9ras seraient allum\u00e9es 24\u00a0h\/24 et toute proc\u00e9dure non film\u00e9e serait nulle. Et admettons que le <\/i><\/span><em><a href=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/controles-jacques-toubon-je-suis-tres-favorable-aux-enregistrements-video\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">D\u00e9fenseur des Droits<\/a> <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>y ait acc\u00e8s quand il veut par exemple, ce serait une mesure pour la protection du citoyen\u00a0\u00bb.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8972\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8972\" style=\"width: 720px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8972 size-full\" title=\"Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/a13c3412e8b8d52ce359f59b1705de0e1e38d862.jpg\" alt=\"\u00a9 Stop le contr\u00f4le au faci\u00e8s\" width=\"720\" height=\"274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/a13c3412e8b8d52ce359f59b1705de0e1e38d862.jpg 720w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/a13c3412e8b8d52ce359f59b1705de0e1e38d862-300x114.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/a13c3412e8b8d52ce359f59b1705de0e1e38d862-600x228.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8972\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u00a9 FATAHGRAPHY<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Pour autant, l\u2019apaisement des rapports entre les forces de police et les citoyens est essentiel\u00a0et n\u00e9cessaire, d\u2019o\u00f9 l\u2019importance d\u2019\u00e9valuer les contr\u00f4les, d\u2019en mesurer l\u2019efficacit\u00e9 et d\u2019en d\u00e9noncer les abus\u00a0:<i> \u00ab\u00a0Comme la police repr\u00e9sente l\u2019\u00c9tat, quand elle se comporte mal avec une partie de la population, les<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<table class=\" alignright\" style=\"width: 200px; height: 150px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Le Collectif se mobilise \u00e9galement au niveau juridique\u00a0; il est \u00e0 l\u2019origine de la premi\u00e8re <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/police-justice\/article\/2015\/06\/24\/l-etat-condamne-pour-faute-lourde-apres-des-controles-au-facies_4660853_1653578.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">action en justice collective contre pour contr\u00f4le abusif\u00a0<\/a>:<i> \u00ab\u00a0On ne pensait tellement pas gagner\u00a0! On a \u00e9t\u00e9 pris de court. C\u2019\u00e9tait une tr\u00e8s belle surprise pour le terrain. La victoire, \u00e7a a donn\u00e9 une patate aux gens\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\"><i>gens voient que leur \u00c9tat, leur France, les traite mal. Donc le message qui est envoy\u00e9 par le refus d\u2019analyser ces pratiques et d\u2019essayer de les am\u00e9liorer, c\u2019est un message de refus de savoir comment mieux traiter ses citoyens. C\u2019est l\u00e0 o\u00f9 c\u2019est dramatique.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">La proposition du Collectif a re\u00e7u de nombreux soutiens politiques gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 une campagne nationale m\u00e9diatique visant \u00e0 cr\u00e9er cette tra\u00e7abilit\u00e9 des contr\u00f4les. Elle a d\u2019ailleurs fait l\u2019objet de plusieurs propositions de loi\u00a0:<i> \u00ab\u00a0C\u2019est bien, mais \u00e7a ne suffit pas il faut aller plus loin. C\u2019est un sujet sur lequel on ne peut pas revenir en arri\u00e8re&#8230; Il y a trop de ministres en faveur. On continue de promouvoir le r\u00e9c\u00e9piss\u00e9 parce que c\u2019est in\u00e9vitable\u00a0! Ce n\u2019est pas de savoir \u201csi\u201d c\u2019est juste de savoir \u201cquand\u201d.\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">Depuis les attentats de janvier dernier, les forces de l\u2019ordre sont \u00e9norm\u00e9ment sollicit\u00e9es et <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.franceinter.fr\/emission-linterview-la-police-a-bout-de-souffle\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 bout de souffle<\/a><span style=\"font-family: Ubuntu;\">. D\u00e8s le 14 novembre, des renforts ont \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9quisitionn\u00e9s pour surveiller les lieux publics et rassurer les citoyens. 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