{"id":4621,"date":"2013-10-31T13:37:31","date_gmt":"2013-10-31T12:37:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/?p=4621"},"modified":"2013-11-18T17:59:14","modified_gmt":"2013-11-18T16:59:14","slug":"un-silence-religieux-au-sujet-du-halal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/un-silence-religieux-au-sujet-du-halal\/","title":{"rendered":"Un silence religieux au sujet du Halal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Sujet devenu sensible, la viande halal a fait l\u2019objet de nombreuses controverses. Que ce soit pour ou contre, des voix se sont \u00e9lev\u00e9es. Certains en ont m\u00eame fait une r\u00e9cup\u00e9ration politique en cr\u00e9ant la pol\u00e9mique, notamment durant la campagne pr\u00e9sidentielle.<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"350\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4622\" alt=\"halal\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/halal.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/halal.jpg 600w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/halal-300x175.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Voyons au-del\u00e0 de ces pol\u00e9miques sur les m\u00e9thodes d\u2019abattage ou sur l\u2019unique pr\u00e9sence de viande halal dans les rayons des magasins. Il m\u2019a r\u00e9cemment \u00e9t\u00e9 affirm\u00e9 que les musulmans peuvent, en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, consommer une viande qui n\u2019est pas abattue par un musulman d\u00e8s lors qu\u2019il ne s\u2019agit pas de porc.<\/p>\n<p>Chacun fait comme il l\u2019entend. Pour autant, j\u2019ai souvent vu les musulmans manger uniquement de la viande halal bien qu\u2019il existe des diff\u00e9rences de pratiques.<\/p>\n<p>Plusieurs exp\u00e9riences me l\u2019ont d\u00e9montr\u00e9. En effet, lors d\u2019un repas au restaurant avec des amis d\u2019origine saoudienne qui mangeaient une entrec\u00f4te ou du foie de volaille, l\u2019un d\u2019eux m\u2019a dit apr\u00e8s avoir remarqu\u00e9 mon interrogation : <em>\u00ab Dans le Coran il est \u00e9crit : mange de la viande des gens du livre, juif ou chr\u00e9tiens, mais c\u2019est vrai que vous les alg\u00e9riens, vous compliquez tout \u00bb<\/em>. On aurait alors pu croire qu\u2019ils \u00e9taient non pratiquants\u2026 Sauf qu\u2019ils ont refus\u00e9 de manger le dessert, des cr\u00eapes flamb\u00e9es, m\u00eame apr\u00e8s leur avoir expliqu\u00e9 que l\u2019alcool s\u2019\u00e9tait \u00e9vapor\u00e9 une fois br\u00fbl\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>\u00ab Ces merguez sont meilleures que les merguez AVS. Renseigne-toi ! \u00bb<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Autre exp\u00e9rience, dans une grande surface de la r\u00e9gion parisienne, j\u2019ai crois\u00e9 un couple de musulmans fondamentalistes (lui en djellaba et son \u00e9pouse en djilbab) se servant de la viande au rayon boucherie libre-service non halal. Pensant qu\u2019ils s\u2019\u00e9taient tromp\u00e9s, je me suis permis de leur dire et l\u2019homme me r\u00e9pondit : <em>\u00ab Ces merguez sont meilleures que les merguez AVS, et en France tout est hallal, sauf le porc. Renseigne-toi ! \u00bb<\/em> Plus tard, au fast food, j\u2019ai aussi vu des femmes en djilbab manger des big mac. Je ne m\u2019\u00e9tais jamais v\u00e9ritablement pos\u00e9 de questions, ne mangeant pas de viande moi-m\u00eame.<\/p>\n<p>Mais derni\u00e8rement, dans la mosqu\u00e9e que je fr\u00e9quente, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 des plus \u00e9tonn\u00e9\u2026Ce jour-l\u00e0 nous \u00e9tions plusieurs, dont l\u2019imam, attabl\u00e9s dans la cuisine en train de manger des pizzas achet\u00e9es chez le commer\u00e7ant voisin. Un fid\u00e8le nous rejoint et nous lui proposons une part.<br \/>\nCe dernier refuse, nous r\u00e9pondant : <em>\u00ab Je ne mange pas la nourriture des chr\u00e9tiens car je ne sais pas si c\u2019est halal. \u00bb<\/em> A cela, l\u2019imam lui r\u00e9pond s\u00e8chement : <em>\u00ab Tu n\u2019as pas honte, tu me vois manger et tu dis cela. Premi\u00e8rement quand tu vas chez un musulman, tu n\u2019as pas le droit de demander si c\u2019est halal, et si tu vas chez un chr\u00e9tien tu demandes juste si ce n\u2019est pas du porc \u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Une des personnes pr\u00e9sentes r\u00e9torque : <em>\u00ab Mais les chr\u00e9tiens n\u2019\u00e9gorgent pas ? \u00bb<\/em> L\u2019imam r\u00e9ponds : <em>\u00ab Le cheik Youssouf El Qardawi a dit que tu pouvais manger la viande des juifs et des chr\u00e9tiens, et que le Coran est intemporel. Donc quand Dieu a dit mange la viande des chr\u00e9tiens, c\u2019est qu\u2019il savait comment seraient les chr\u00e9tiens aujourd\u2019hui \u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Je lui ai alors demand\u00e9 s\u2019il pouvait manger de la viande au Mc Do par exemple ? Il me dit <em>\u00ab Pour ma part, je ne mange que de la viande sacrifi\u00e9e par des musulmans, mais toi si tu veux, tu peux y aller, c\u2019est halal \u00bb<\/em>. Alors vraiment \u00e9tonn\u00e9 d\u2019entendre cela de la bouche de cet imam, sachant qu\u2019il est fondamentaliste, j\u2019ai pos\u00e9 la m\u00eame question \u00e0 d\u2019autres imams. Ces derniers m\u2019ont r\u00e9pondu exactement la m\u00eame chose (avec, pour certains, la condition de l\u2019\u00e9gorgement).<\/p>\n<p>Cependant, encore surpris par ces nouvelles, j\u2019ai eu envie de conna\u00eetre l\u2019opinion de certaines connaissances et j\u2019ai en ai retenu deux.<br \/>\nTout d\u2019abord, Daoud qui s\u2019\u00e9tait rendu en Afghanistan durant un an pour le djihad, il y a maintenant une quinzaine d\u2019ann\u00e9es me dit : <em>\u00ab Charles Pasqua, en 1994, a autoris\u00e9 et donn\u00e9 le monopole de la viande Halal \u00e0 Paris, Evry et Lyon. Je pense que c\u2019\u00e9tait pour nous communautariser et cela a fonctionn\u00e9. \u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Puis Fatiha, secr\u00e9taire et m\u00e8re de famille, me dit : <em>\u00ab La pol\u00e9mique du halal \u00e7a ne donne du cr\u00e9dit qu\u2019\u00e0 la droite et l\u2019extr\u00eame droite, qui en font une r\u00e9cup\u00e9ration politique. Mais \u00e0 bien y penser, ce n\u2019est \u00e0 mon sens ni religieux, ni m\u00eame politique ; mais juste \u00e9conomique parce que le business du halal rapporte bien trop ! \u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.centre-palmier93.fr\/articles-multimedia\/audios\/page\/6\/\" target=\"_blank\">Encore plus \u00e9tonnant, l\u2019\u00e9change avec le cheikh FALAH AL MOUNDAKAR, lors du s\u00e9minaire de l\u2019imam Shatibi au centre du palmier de saint Denis en arabe et traduite en fran\u00e7ais. <\/a>Le Cheick s\u2019\u00e9nerve parce qu\u2019on lui pose toujours des questions sur ce sujet qui nous est licite. Par contre, aucune question ne lui est pos\u00e9e sur les interdits comme les aides de l\u2019\u00e9tats (RMI, RSA, etc..), puisqu\u2019un musulman doit travailler et ne pas vivre de l\u2019aum\u00f4ne des chr\u00e9tiens.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=TxsuZAjfnWY#t=60%20%20\" target=\"_blank\">A voir aussi Cheikh el &lsquo;Otheymine : La viande des Gens du Livre en Am\u00e9rique est permise (vid\u00e9o)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Aujourd\u2019hui, je suis \u00e9tonn\u00e9 par le silence des religieux dans les mosqu\u00e9es sur le sujet.<\/p>\n<p>Article r\u00e9alis\u00e9 par Azzedine Benelkedi<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sujet devenu sensible, la viande halal a fait l\u2019objet de nombreuses controverses. Que ce soit pour ou contre, des voix se sont \u00e9lev\u00e9es. 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