{"id":3112,"date":"2010-02-05T10:46:19","date_gmt":"2010-02-05T09:46:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/?p=3112"},"modified":"2013-08-02T10:54:32","modified_gmt":"2013-08-02T08:54:32","slug":"debat-ou-meeting-il-va-falloir-choisir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/debat-ou-meeting-il-va-falloir-choisir\/","title":{"rendered":"D\u00e9bat ou meeting : il va falloir choisir"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>R\u00c9GIONALES 2010. Jean Fran\u00e7ois Khan a r\u00e9uni mercredi soir \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cole normale sup\u00e9rieur quatre candidats t\u00eates de listes aux r\u00e9gionales pour une discussion autour de l\u2019alternative sociale. Un d\u00e9bat qui a vite tourn\u00e9 \u00e0 la farce politique. Guillemin et Rafika \u00e9taient sur place.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Autour_de_Francois_KHAN__les_candidats_aux_regionales_ont_debatu_plus_de_deux_heures_et_demi_t.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3117 alignleft\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Autour_de_Francois_KHAN__les_candidats_aux_regionales_ont_debatu_plus_de_deux_heures_et_demi_t.jpg\" width=\"192\" height=\"108\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0On nous l\u2019annon\u00e7ait comme une grande premi\u00e8re. \u00a0Le d\u00e9bat initi\u00e9 par l\u2019ex-patron de Marianne avait en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 plus des allures de meeting que de r\u00e9elle discussion politique. L\u2019initiative \u00e9tait pourtant louable. Afin d\u2019inaugurer concr\u00e8tement son CRREA, (Centre de R\u00e9flexion et de Recherche pour l\u2019Elaboration d\u2019Alternative), Jean Fran\u00e7ois Khan s\u2019\u00e9tait entour\u00e9 de quatre des t\u00eates de liste aux \u00e9lections r\u00e9gionales de mars prochain\u00a0: Jean Jacques Queyranne, socialiste et pr\u00e9sident sortant de la r\u00e9gion, Azouz Begag du MODEM et ancien ministre d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 \u00e0 la promotion de l\u2019\u00e9galit\u00e9 des chances, Philippe Meirieu d\u2019Europe Ecologie et Elisa Martin du Front de Gauche.<\/div>\n<p>Organis\u00e9e en collaboration avec l\u2019association Carrefour de la R\u00e9publique, la soir\u00e9e avait pour th\u00e8me \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019alternative sociale, ou comment sur le plan r\u00e9gional contribuer \u00e0 construire un nouveau mod\u00e8le de soci\u00e9t\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb. Apr\u00e8s une introduction laiss\u00e9e aux soins des personnalit\u00e9s locales, le d\u00e9bat devait ensuite logiquement se poursuivre par une s\u00e9rie de questions r\u00e9ponses entre les politiciens et le public.<\/p>\n<p>Khan donne donc le coup d\u2019envoi avec, en pr\u00e9lude, une question simple aux candidats\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Sur le terrain, comment commencer \u00e0 esquisser un mod\u00e8le de soci\u00e9t\u00e9\u00a0? \u00bb Les r\u00e9ponses affluent, fluides\u00a0: de l\u2019imp\u00e9ratif d\u2019Elisa Martin \u00ab <i>d\u2019arr\u00eater ce pompier pyromane qu\u2019est Nicolas Sarkozy\u00bb<\/i> suivi des quatre piliers de la croissance de Queyranne, et puis le hic. Avant que ne soit expos\u00e9 le credo de Meirieu, Begag prend \u00e0 son tour la parole. Il ne la rendra qu\u2019un bon quart d\u2019heure plus tard, laissant une assembl\u00e9e mi hilare, mi dubitative face \u00e0 un discours assez d\u00e9cousu. Dans les rangs fusent des \u00ab <i>il a bu<\/i> \u00bb, \u00ab <i>\u00e7a y est, il a p\u00e9t\u00e9 un boulon<\/i> \u00bb. \u00a0M\u00eame Anne-Sophie Condemine, N\u00b02 sur la liste MODEM ne semble pas vouloir en entendre plus et quitte la salle.<\/p>\n<p>Mais les \u00e9lucubrations du candidat orange ne sont pas les seules responsable de l\u2019immense couac g\u00e9n\u00e9rale. Queyranne, \u00e0 mi chemin entre peur d\u2019Europe Ecologie (les stigmates des europ\u00e9ennes\u00a0?) et bilan de fin de mandat a eu une possession de micro vigoureuse, allant m\u00eame jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 \u00e0 couper un intervenant dans le public avant que celui-ci ait fini de poser sa question, non pas pour lui r\u00e9pondre mais bien pour poursuivre la palabre. Jean Fran\u00e7ois Khan n\u2019a pas su, h\u00e9las, faire son office d\u2019arbitre.<\/p>\n<p>Ajoutez \u00e0 cela les questions du public \u00e0 l\u2019organisation anarchique et le d\u00e9rapage verbal des cinq derni\u00e8res minutes, et vous obtiendrez l\u2019esquisse de ce qu\u2019est une ar\u00e8ne sous couvert de discussion de salon. Et puisqu\u2019il \u00e9tait d\u00e9j\u00e0 bien \u00e9tabli que chacun des candidats pr\u00eachait ouvertement pour sa paroisse, notre blogueuse Rafika interpella les tribuns sur leur programme \u00e9lectoral, et plus pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment sur l\u2019avenir \u00a0des quartiers populaires. La question n\u2019eu malheureusement pas l\u2019\u00e9cho souhait\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>A la sortie de l\u2019amphith\u00e9\u00e2tre, les avis du public convergeaient. \u00ab <i>C\u2019est positif de se faire rencontrer les gens pour discuter, mais de dire que ce n\u2019est pas une d\u00e9bat politique, c\u2019est une fumisterie<\/i> \u00bb r\u00e9sume \u00a0Bruno Charles, vice pr\u00e9sident du Grand Lyon. \u00ab<i> La parole n\u2019a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 assez donn\u00e9e au public. Ils ont fait leur discours, et \u00e7a c\u2019est poursuivi en d\u00e9bat \u00e9lectoral <\/i>\u00bb estime lui aussi Renaud, qui repart un peu d\u00e9\u00e7u. Pour la majorit\u00e9 des citoyens pr\u00e9sents ce soir, l\u2019objectif de Jean Fran\u00e7ois Khan \u00e9tait loin d\u2019\u00eatre atteint. Du cot\u00e9 des pontifes, on \u00e9tait cependant plus mesur\u00e9, ou moins r\u00e9aliste. Si Begag explique\u00a0: \u00ab <i>Je suis d\u00e9cal\u00e9. Ils ont parl\u00e9 de philosophie, de concepts inaccessibles. Mon public, c\u2019est celui qui n\u2019est pas l\u00e0 ce soir <\/i>\u00bb, Khan lui juge la prestation \u00ab <i>constructive, assez remarquable<\/i> \u00bb et en ressort du \u00ab<i> positif<\/i> \u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Quelles est la le\u00e7on \u00e0 retenir de cette soir\u00e9e\u00a0? Premi\u00e8rement, il est illusoire de pr\u00e9tendre animer un d\u00e9bat d\u2019id\u00e9es d\u00e9sint\u00e9ress\u00e9 en plein cursus honorum, un mois avant une \u00e9lection. Cela n\u2019avait rien d\u2019un club de r\u00e9flexion, et encore moins d\u2019un \u00ab\u00a0think tank\u00a0\u00bb, pour reprendre les mots d\u2019Emmanuel Lemieux. Deuxi\u00e8mement, un fois la premi\u00e8re le\u00e7on retenue, quitte \u00e0 faire un d\u00e9bat, autant inviter tout le monde. Nous aurions \u00e9vit\u00e9 \u00a0la col\u00e8re de Fran\u00e7oise Grosset\u00eate, t\u00eate de liste UMP en Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes, non convi\u00e9e \u00e0 la sauterie. Enfin, le public pr\u00e9sent ce soir dans l\u2019amphith\u00e9\u00e2tre M\u00e9rieux de l\u2019Ecole Normale Sup\u00e9rieure \u00e9tait un public citoyen, qui s\u2019int\u00e9resse aux questions politiques de ce pays, ou, tout du moins, de cette r\u00e9gion. Les convier pour ne rien leur dire et leur demander d\u2019aller voter un mois plus tard sont deux attitudes incompatibles. Encore une belle soir\u00e9e pour la d\u00e9mocratie&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Auteur\u00a0 : Guillemin Rosi<\/span><\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>R\u00c9GIONALES 2010. 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