{"id":15387,"date":"2019-03-13T16:08:10","date_gmt":"2019-03-13T15:08:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/?p=15387"},"modified":"2019-03-13T16:08:10","modified_gmt":"2019-03-13T15:08:10","slug":"a-saint-fons-le-grand-debat-ne-mobilise-quune-partie-de-la-population","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/a-saint-fons-le-grand-debat-ne-mobilise-quune-partie-de-la-population\/","title":{"rendered":"A Saint-Fons le Grand D\u00e9bat ne mobilise qu\u2019une partie de la population"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ce samedi 9 mars se tenait le Grand D\u00e9bat National \u00e0 Saint-Fons. A l’\u00e9chelle nationale ce dernier prendra fin vendredi 15 marsLes Saint-Foniards ont privil\u00e9gi\u00e9 les th\u00e9matiques finances et service public.<\/h4>\n

Ce jour-l\u00e0 sur la place Durel a lieu le march\u00e9, comme tous les samedis matin. En parcourant les all\u00e9es, on constate que la vie se poursuit paisiblement, comme \u00e0 son habitude. Lorsque l\u2019on questionne \u00c9ric sur la tenue du Grand D\u00e9bat National ce jour, il affirme : \u00ab C\u2019est s\u00fbr que c\u2019est un peu pass\u00e9 inaper\u00e7u. Je l\u2019ai appris ce matin-m\u00eame par quelqu\u2019un qui c\u00f4toie des gens de la mairie. \u00bb. Il ajoute \u00ab d\u2019ailleurs, \u00e7a commence bient\u00f4t l\u00e0, c\u2019est \u00e0 10h ! \u00bb en regardant le cadrant de sa montre.<\/p>\n

Quelques minutes plus tard, devant le hall des f\u00eates, les participants au d\u00e9bat commencent \u00e0 affluer. Un homme se demande si c\u2019est bien ici qu\u2019a lieu \u00ab la r\u00e9union \u00bb dont il dit avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 inform\u00e9 le matin-m\u00eame, via Facebook. En entrant dans la salle, des all\u00e9es de chaises vides attendent les Saint-foniards. Progressivement, le hall des f\u00eates se remplie. On garde des places pour ses amies, on s\u2019installe confortablement. Au bout de 30 minutes, la salle est pleine.<\/p>\n

Une diversit\u00e9 de sujets abord\u00e9s<\/h3>\n

La maire, Nathalie Frier (Divers Droite) fait un court discours pour lancer le d\u00e9bat et inviter tout le monde \u00e0 s\u2019exprimer : \u00ab Il n\u2019y a pas de parole plus importante que d\u2019autre, il n\u2019y a pas de b\u00eatises. C\u2019est un moment d\u2019\u00e9change et de libert\u00e9 de parole. \u00bb.<\/p>\n

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La maire, Nathalie Frier (Divers Droite) faisant un discours pour lancer le d\u00e9bat. Cr\u00e9dit Photo : Charl\u00e8ne Ponzo \/ Lyon Bondy Blog<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Ce d\u00e9bat, nous apprend-elle, a \u00e9t\u00e9 initi\u00e9 par un regroupement de citoyens saint-foniards. Elle adresse ses remerciements \u00e0 Milly Nad\u00e8ge, Robert-Gabriel Elkaim, Rabah Tarchouni, etc. Apr\u00e8s une br\u00e8ve intervention du d\u00e9put\u00e9 LREM Yves Blein, pr\u00e9sent pour l\u2019occasion, le d\u00e9bat peut commencer. Un premier homme prend la parole et dit la \u00ab gravit\u00e9 de la crise \u00bb que traverse notre pays. Il s\u2019\u00e9tonne de la multiplication r\u00e9cente des violences polici\u00e8res et explique : \u00ab c\u2019est du jamais vu en France depuis au moins 50 ans. Depuis 68 minimum. \u00bb.<\/p>\n

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Un premier homme prend la parole, sous l’oreille attentive de la maire, Nathalie Frier (Divers Droite). Cr\u00e9dit Photo : Charl\u00e8ne Ponzo \/ Lyon Bondy Blog<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Le d\u00e9bat commence fort et les sujets de conversations divers et vari\u00e9es s\u2019amassent. D\u00e9sertification des territoire d\u00fb \u00e0 la disparition des services de proximit\u00e9, \u00e9ducation nationale, in\u00e9galit\u00e9s socio-\u00e9conomiques, d\u00e9veloppement durable, le CICE (Cr\u00e9dit d\u2019Imp\u00f4ts pour la Comp\u00e9titivit\u00e9 et l\u2019Emploi)\u2026 Chaque intervention soul\u00e8ve un nouveau probl\u00e8me. La mod\u00e9ratrice du d\u00e9bat invite les participants \u00e0 \u00ab rebondir sur ce que disent les autres \u00bb.<\/p>\n

\u00ab On est dans l\u2019entre-soi \u00bb<\/h3>\n

L\u2019assembl\u00e9e venue participer au d\u00e9bat \u00e9tait peu repr\u00e9sentative de la population saint-foniarde. Selon une \u00e9tude men\u00e9e par l\u2019INSEE, en 2015, 43,7% des Saint-foniards avaient moins de 29 ans. Or, le public \u00e9tait compos\u00e9 de personnes \u00e2g\u00e9es et de personnalit\u00e9s politiques. Intervenant en qualit\u00e9 de citoyen et de repr\u00e9sentant du Parti Socialiste, Hadi Mebarki a exprim\u00e9 son opinion sur cette question. S\u2019adressant \u00e0 l\u2019assembl\u00e9e, il a affirm\u00e9 : \u00ab On est dans l\u2019entre soi ici. Ce n\u2019est pas le Saint-Fons que je connais. Ce ne sont pas les populations que je c\u00f4toie \u00e0 Bron \u00e0 Feyzin, \u00e0 V\u00e9nissieux \u00bb. \u00ab Il y a une v\u00e9ritable fracture entre la population r\u00e9elle et ses repr\u00e9sentants \u00bb, ajoute-t-il. Son intervention dure au total 3 minutes durant lesquelles il s\u2019insurge contre le fauss\u00e9 qui s\u00e9pare les plus riches et les plus pauvres. \u00ab Quand il est question de donner de l\u2019argent aux entreprises et que rien n\u2019est fait, on parle d\u2019investissement. Quand il s\u2019agit d\u2019aider les plus d\u00e9favoris\u00e9s, on parle d\u2019assistanat \u00bb. A la fin de son intervention, le conseiller municipal d\u2019opposition est applaudi.<\/p>\n

Certains saluent, d\u2019autres s\u2019insurgent<\/h3>\n

Les interventions se suivent et ne se ressemblent pas. Certains saluent l\u2019initiative et remercient l\u2019organisation de ce d\u00e9bat un samedi matin tandis que d\u2019autres disent tout haut leur m\u00e9contentement. Une femme prend la parole et dit avec virulence son indignation face \u00e0 une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 qu\u2019elle consid\u00e8re comme profond\u00e9ment injuste. Elle affirme : \u00ab Vous faites tout pour les \u00e9lites. Et rien pour les autres. Mais sans nous, vous n\u2019\u00eates rien ! On tient compte de certains mais on ne tient pas compte de chacun et \u00e7a il faut arr\u00eater, STOP ! \u00bb A la fin de son \u00e9locution, lorsqu\u2019elle rend le micro, un homme crie du fond de la salle \u00ab BRAVO MADAME ! \u00bb en applaudissant avec enthousiasme. Toutes les cinq ou six interventions, Yves Blein prend la parole et r\u00e9pond longuement aux participants du d\u00e9bat. Sa d\u00e9marche lui est quasi imm\u00e9diatement reproch\u00e9. Dans l\u2019assembl\u00e9e, des voix s\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8vent : \u00ab Finalement, vous nous faites la promotion de la R\u00e9publique en Marche ! \u00bb lance un homme du fond de la salle. Un autre surench\u00e9rit : \u00ab Moi je ne suis pas venue pour vous \u00e9couter faire votre pub, c\u2019est plus un d\u00e9bat ! \u00bb<\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=564877167357937&id=100015069751848<\/p>\n

Quelques jours apr\u00e8s le d\u00e9bat, les discussions se poursuivent sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux et plus particuli\u00e8rement sous un post Facebook de Nathalie Frier elle-m\u00eame. Certains soul\u00e8vent la richesse du d\u00e9bat qui a eut lieu. D\u2019autres qualifient le Grand D\u00e9bat National de \u00ab tartufferie \u00bb. Un autre raille : \u00ab On a beau prendre la photo dans tous les sens vous \u00eates pas nombreux. On enl\u00e8ve les politiques, y a personne<\/span><\/span> \u00bb. Le Grand D\u00e9bat n\u2019a pas fini de cr\u00e9er la discorde.<\/p>\n

Le Grand D\u00e9bat National prendra fin ce vendredi 15 mars 2019. A la mi-avril, la Commission Nationale du D\u00e9bat Public (CNDP) rendra un compte-rendu synth\u00e9tique suite \u00e0 cette consultation citoyenne qui aura dur\u00e9 3 mois.<\/p>\n

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Beau moment de d\u00e9mocratie et de discussion: le grand d\u00e9bat Nation \u00e0 Saint-Fons.
\nMerci \u00e0 tous de votre participation…<\/p>\n

Publi\u00e9e par Nathalie Frier<\/a> sur Samedi 9 mars 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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