{"id":10538,"date":"2016-12-05T20:56:06","date_gmt":"2016-12-05T19:56:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/?p=10538"},"modified":"2016-12-13T16:13:03","modified_gmt":"2016-12-13T15:13:03","slug":"ceci-nest-camp-de-roms-cest-bidonville","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/ceci-nest-camp-de-roms-cest-bidonville\/","title":{"rendered":"Ceci n&rsquo;est pas un camp de Roms, c&rsquo;est un bidonville"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">DOSSIER R\u00c9ALIS\u00c9 EN COLLABORATION AVEC <a href=\"https:\/\/elkaimalban.wordpress.com\/\">ALBANELK<\/a>, LE BLOG D&rsquo;ALBAN ELKA\u00cfM.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">RETROUVEZ NOTRE DOSSIER COMPLET SUR LES BIDONVILLES EN FRANCE&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><span lang=\"zxx\" style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/elkaimalban.wordpress.com\/2016\/11\/03\/fantasmes-roms-et-integration-la-realite-des-bidonvilles-francais-dossier\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fantasmes, Roms et int\u00e9gration : la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 des bidonvilles fran\u00e7ais<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Les bidonvilles fran\u00e7ais sont souvent consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme des \u00ab camps de Roms \u00bb, habitats temporaires construits par des nomades. Mais pour de nombreux sp\u00e9cialistes, ils sont en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 des solutions de survie pour des pauvres qui n&rsquo;ont pas acc\u00e8s au logement.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Camps de Roms. C&rsquo;est ainsi que l&rsquo;on d\u00e9signe les nouveaux bidonvilles. Cette expression trahit l&rsquo;id\u00e9e selon laquelle l&rsquo;existence de ces zones d&rsquo;habitat indigne serait due au mode de vie nomade des Tsiganes d&rsquo;Europe de l&rsquo;Est que l&rsquo;on appelle \u00ab&nbsp;Roms&nbsp;\u00bb.&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" name=\"images2\" align=\"BOTTOM\" border=\"0\"> Cette id\u00e9e est vivement contest\u00e9e chez les chercheurs, acteurs de terrain et travailleurs sociaux. Pour eux, les bidonvilles ne sont que le r\u00e9sultat de l&rsquo;extr\u00eame pr\u00e9carit\u00e9 dans laquelle vit toute une partie des habitants de l&rsquo;Hexagone. Une population au sein de laquelle les Roms sont surrepr\u00e9sent\u00e9s, en raison de divers facteurs socio-\u00e9conomiques.<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\u00ab&nbsp;<em>La plupart des Roms ne sont pas nomades<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, explique Jean-Pierre Li\u00e9geois, universitaire sp\u00e9cialiste de la culture Tsigane et auteur du livre&nbsp;Roms et Tsiganes*,&nbsp;qui fait r\u00e9f\u00e9rence en la mati\u00e8re. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Et beaucoup souhaiteraient ne pas l&rsquo;\u00eatre mais y sont contraints.&nbsp;Les Roms de l&rsquo;Est, lanc\u00e9s dans la migration, cherchent \u00e0 se fixer, et on les en emp\u00eache. Il faut voir le nombre d&rsquo;expulsions d&rsquo;un squat \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre quand on suit une famille pendant un an<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. En Rh\u00f4ne-Alpes, en 2014, une personne vivant en squat ou en bidonville a \u00e9t\u00e9 expuls\u00e9e en moyenne plus de deux fois dans l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<h2 align=\"JUSTIFY\">Les Roms font partie des plus pr\u00e9caires en France<\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10539\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10539\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10539 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustration-1roms-01.jpg\" width=\"700\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustration-1roms-01.jpg 700w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustration-1roms-01-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustration-1roms-01-600x450.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10539\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Un bidonville \u00e0 Bron, pr\u00e8s de Lyon. \u00a9 Photo Henri Branciard<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Les bidonvilles ne sont pas peupl\u00e9s que de Roms&#8230;. mais les Roms y sont la population la plus repr\u00e9sent\u00e9e. Et de loin. La plupart sont Roumains (il y a des Roms originaires de tr\u00e8s nombreux pays). Plus qu&rsquo;\u00e0 leur culture, cela est d\u00fb \u00e0 une conjonction de facteurs politiques, sociaux et \u00e9conomiques qui font que ces derniers sont surrepr\u00e9sent\u00e9s parmi les publics les pr\u00e9caires du pays. Le ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne est d\u00e9cortiqu\u00e9 dans l&rsquo;\u00e9tude Du bidonville \u00e0 la ville, vers la \u00ab <em>vie normale<\/em> \u00bb ?*, publi\u00e9e en 2015 par l&rsquo;association Trajectoires, qui \u0153uvre \u00e0 la fois dans la recherche et sur le terrain.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Depuis le milieu des ann\u00e9es 90, les Roumains en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral font face \u00e0 des |||barri\u00e8res administratives||| qui les excluent de nombreux droits octroy\u00e9s aux demandeurs d&rsquo;asile, dont l&rsquo;h\u00e9bergement provisoire. Jusque janvier 2014, la loi a \u00e9galement lourdement entrav\u00e9 leur acc\u00e8s \u00e0 l&#8217;emploi, avec les \u00ab<em>&nbsp;mesures transitoires<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">En Roumanie, les Roms en particulier constituent les populations les plus en difficult\u00e9 au niveau social et \u00e9conomique. Plus pauvres, moins qualifi\u00e9s, moins \u00e9duqu\u00e9s. L&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e est donc forc\u00e9ment plus difficile. Ils sont g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement moins nombreux que les autres migrants \u00e0 avoir un r\u00e9seau de proches ins\u00e9r\u00e9 en France sur lequel s&rsquo;appuyer pour d\u00e9buter dans le pays \u00e0 leur arriv\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Les Tsiganes de l&rsquo;Est \u00e9migrent plus souvent en famille que les autres. La pr\u00e9sence de leurs enfants rend leur prise en charge tr\u00e8s difficile dans les structures d&rsquo;accueil d&rsquo;urgence, qui ne prennent pas les enfants.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Sans ressource, sans h\u00e9bergement et sans assistance, beaucoup ont donc d\u00fb se d\u00e9brouiller pour se maintenir sur le territoire. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>A un moment, des solutions de survie sont trouv\u00e9es<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, r\u00e9sume Louis Bourgois. Chercheur, sociologue et homme de terrain, il intervient dans les bidonvilles et a \u00e9tudi\u00e9 le sujet de pr\u00e8s, participant, entre autres, \u00e0 la production de l&rsquo;\u00e9tude sus-cit\u00e9e. \u00ab <em>Former des bidonvilles permet notamment de prot\u00e9ger les enfants, qui y sont plus en s\u00e9curit\u00e9 que dans la rue.<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n<h2 align=\"JUSTIFY\">Politiques et m\u00e9dias rechignent \u00e0 parler de bidonville<\/h2>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\u00ab&nbsp;<em>Il y a une r\u00e9ticence de la part des politiques et des m\u00e9dias \u00e0 parler de bidonville<\/em> \u00bb, constate Evangeline Masson-Diez, l&rsquo;une des sociologues qui ont particip\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tude \u00ab&nbsp;Du bidonville \u00e0 la ville&nbsp;\u00bb. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>C&rsquo;est quand m\u00eame d\u00e9rangeant d&rsquo;admettre qu&rsquo;il y a des bidonvilles en France, et qu&rsquo;on a peut-\u00eatre tous une part de responsabilit\u00e9<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10540\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10540\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10540 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustroms2-01.jpg\" width=\"700\" height=\"528\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustroms2-01.jpg 700w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustroms2-01-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lyonbondyblog.fr\/LBB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Illustroms2-01-600x453.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10540\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Une maison dans un bidonville de Chassieu, dans la banlieue de Lyon. \u00a9 Photo Henri Branciard<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Pour la chercheuse, parler de \u00ab&nbsp;<em>camps<\/em> \u00bb ou de \u00ab&nbsp;<em>campements<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb alt\u00e8re la perception du public en nourrissant un fantasme sur cette r\u00e9alit\u00e9. Ce qui entra\u00eene une approche plus dure de la question. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>On ne d\u00e9mant\u00e8le pas un bidonville comme on d\u00e9mant\u00e8lerait un camp. Si des personnes vivent dans un camp, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;elles l&rsquo;ont voulu, qu&rsquo;elles vont se d\u00e9placer et qu&rsquo;elles ne sont pas ins\u00e9rables. Mais si des personnes vivent dans un bidonville parce qu&rsquo;elles n&rsquo;ont pas acc\u00e8s \u00e0 un appartement, ce n&rsquo;est plus la m\u00eame dynamique, cela entra\u00eene d&rsquo;autres questions.<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb Parler de bidonville favoriserait donc une approche plus sociale du probl\u00e8me. Cela obligerait \u00e9galement \u00e0 mobiliser des instruments juridiques et des lois qui existent d\u00e9j\u00e0 pour lutter contre l&rsquo;habitat insalubre. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Toutes celles qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9ploy\u00e9es dans les ann\u00e9es 60 et 70.<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Ce mal n&rsquo;est pas nouveau au pays des droits de l&rsquo;Homme. La France l&rsquo;avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 connu, combattu&#8230; et vaincu, dans les ann\u00e9es 70. \u00ab <em>Ce type d&rsquo;habitat s&rsquo;est d\u00e9j\u00e0 d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 avec d&rsquo;autres populations que les Roms, rappelle Louis Bourgois. Notamment les Maghr\u00e9bins et les Portugais dans les ann\u00e9es 70.<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb L&rsquo;exp\u00e9rience n&rsquo;a pourtant pas immunis\u00e9 le pays. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Aujourd&rsquo;hui on commence \u00e0 voir des bidonvilles se d\u00e9velopper aussi avec des migrants afghans ou \u00e9rythr\u00e9ens, comme \u00e0 Paris ou dans le Pas-de-Calais<\/em><em>&nbsp;<\/em>\u00bb, poursuit le sociologue. Ces deux derni\u00e8res semaines, les m\u00e9dias ont chroniqu\u00e9 quotidiennement le d\u00e9mant\u00e8lement de la&nbsp; \u00ab<em>&nbsp;Jungle<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, \u00e0 Calais, ou celui des campements de fortune install\u00e9s par des migrants pr\u00e8s du m\u00e9tro Stalingrad, \u00e0 Paris. Et certains commencent \u00e0 parler de bidonvilles. Car, aussi d\u00e9rangeant que cela puisse \u00eatre, ce mal touche la France comme il touche tous les pays du monde dans lesquels prosp\u00e8rent ces quartiers o\u00f9 se r\u00e9fugie la mis\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DOSSIER R\u00c9ALIS\u00c9 EN COLLABORATION AVEC ALBANELK, LE BLOG D&rsquo;ALBAN ELKA\u00cfM. 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